02/29/1996 01:40 PM Senate L&C

                                                                               
         SB  43 ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, LAND SURVEYORS                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KELLY brought up SB 43 as the next order of business                 
 before the Senate Labor & Commerce Committee.  He stated there is             
 a committee substitute for SB 43.                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TORGERSON made a motion to adopt the committee substitute             
 for SB 43.                                                                    
                                                                               
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 SENATOR LOREN LEMAN, prime sponsor of SB 43, explained that at the            
 request of the Senate Labor & Commerce Committee his staff met with           
 Pat Kalen, who serves on the Board of Registration [Mr. Kalen is              
 actually an applicant to the Board of Architects, Engineers & Land            
 Surveyors], and with representatives of the teamsters to iron out             
 some of the challenges identified during the last committee                   
 hearing.  The result of that meeting was an agreement to disagree:            
 there is a difference of opinion between what the board wants and             
 what the teamsters want.  The proposed committee substitute before            
 the committee deletes those sections that were controversial.  He             
 believes everything that remains in SB 43 is not controversial.               
 Senator Leman stated that Section 1 is basically a revisor's                  
 section.  Section 2 is the one on the retired status.  Section 3              
 was recommended by the Department of Law to insert the word "or" in           
 "evidence of practice", so the board can enforce the statute.                 
 Section 4 contains those changes to the definition of practice of             
 land surveying that are acceptable to the land surveyors.  Senator            
 Leman stated he is not aware of any opposition to what remains.               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KELLY asked if there is objection to adoption of the                 
 committee substitute for SB 43.  Hearing none, the chairman stated            
 the committee substitute has been adopted.                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TORGERSON made a motion to discharge CSSB 43(L&C) from the            
 Senate Labor & Commerce Committee with individual recommendations.            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN KELLY, hearing no objections, stated SB 43 was discharged            
 from committee.